The abduction of Caramen T.

From hospital to hospital
August 7th, 2018



I started to feel not well around 2016.


High blood pressure, feeling dizzy, a bloated body, losing power, etc.

Going from hospital to hospital, but nobody could find what was wrong with me.

In the mean time, I was taking care of my daughter who was 14 years old and had many activities.

A full time nanny job.


After going to many hospitals, without satisfying result and knowing the reputation of the Military hospitals, I chose finally to try the Military hospital in my home town.

Fort Suranaree in N. Ratchasima.

The Cardiologist seemed to be very knowledgable and he was ready to look at what was causing my illness.


He detected that I had a high blood-sugar level (480) and prescribed a medication to reduce this.

But that was not changing anything in the way I feel.


Finally, in August 2018, after trying all he could think off, he ordered a full body scan with contrast fluid in my blood to see the veins and the blood flow.

After the scan, I was told to go home and wait for the result.

On August 10, 2018, a Friday evening, while I was shopping at Big-C with my daughter, the Military hospital called me.

They asked me to go to hospital without delay, ASAP.


20180810 161449.mp3, Call from the military hospital.


Translation from Thai of the call.
(Samui is my daughter).
Me Hello
Nurse Hello
Me euhhh
Chat in Thai language.
(Giving the phone to my daughter.)
Samui hello
(unclear chat between the nurse and my daughter)
Samui yes
yes
today??????????
Samui speaking to me
Samui She say the doctor want you
today
Me today???????????
Samui around 8 'o clock or something when you can come.
Me okay.......
Samui speaking with the nurses
Samui ok
Samui speaking with me
Samui Emergency room
Samui speaking with the nurses in Thai
Samui its too serious?
Oooohhh
yeahhh
Ahh
yes
yes
bye

I went immediately to the hospital and got the bad news.

My Aorta was in a very bad condition from the heart to my legs.

The Aorta wall was in some places already so thin that it was ready to burst and leave me bleeding to death.

My Aorta was already about 5.7 cm in diameter and the other veins were shrinking or obstructing the blood flow.

This was causing a high blood pressure.


The scan report from the military hospital.


Urgent surgery was advised.

I asked the price for this operation at the Military hospital, but they could not give an exact price.

Estimated, the operation would cost around the 1,5 million baht (hospital and revalidation included).

But due to my advanced age and my previous medical conditions, complications could arise almost sure and these complications were difficult to be calculated in the estimate.

This was way above my budget and I needed to find another solution.


I had a chat with my brother to ask if he could ask a second advice from doctor in Belgium.

His answer was that he was not a Cardiac patient and "that it was nothing serious".


Chat between my brother and myself.
Gylenthal Georges is my pseudo name on FaceBook.
From Message Date
Gylenthal Georges Hi Luis,
Are you being treated by a Cardiologist?
I have received the results of the CT scan and I would like to get the advice of a Doctor / Specialist in Belgium.
Aug 10, 2018, 10:40 PM
Sending file from the Military Hospital.
Luis Trivino Hi, I have no heart complaints, and thus no treating physician, according to I read there is nothing serious, a clot in the vein and hernia is common. Aug 10, 2018, 11:51 PM

The Maharat, a public hospital, would be another option.

My former Cardiologist, Dr. Pinit, was working at the Maharat and he knew my medical history already for many years.

Saturday August 11, early in the morning, I went with my daughter to the hospital St. Mary where Dr. Pinit was working part-time to ask for a price for the surgery.

Before leaving,I send an answer to my brother.


From Message Date
Gylenthal Georges According to that report, the aortic wall would be very thin where the plug is located and the risk of an artery rupture is very high.
I am now waiting for an appointment with my cardiologist.
See what he recommends.
Aug 11, 2018, 6:24 AM

Whilst they were calculating the price for the surgery, the nurses were measuring my blood pressure and other things.

My blood pressure was already over 200 and still going up, so the nurses lay me on a bed and gave me medication to reduce the blood pressure.

My daughter was the whole time with me and chatting with her school friends.


After they calculated the cost for this operation, there was no way I could afford to have the operation performed in Thailand.

I had no health insurance and no financial intervention from the healthcare in Belgium.


There was also the unknown factor of a possible (sure) complication and this would make the final price too high for my budget.

The only option was to book a flight to my home country (Belgium) and have the operation performed there.


In Belgium, healthcare is (almost) free and surely more affordable.

But this could jeopardize the studies of my daughter who was following the high school (Grade 7).


Back home, I continued the chat with my brother.


Gylenthal Georges Going into the hospital on Tuesday.
They're going to replace the aorta from the heart to above the stomach.
Aug 11, 2018, 11:31 AM
Luis Trivino Oops, major surgery, in Thailand or elsewhere and via the Belgian health insurance fund or do you have a health insurance fund over there?
Please keep me informed if any complications arise.
Aug 11, 2018, 3:54 PM
Gylenthal Georges On Tuesday they will first make a price quotation
I have no intervention from the health insurance fund or the like.
If the quotation for the surgery is too high, I will be forced to book a flight to Belgium.
But then Samui misses school.
I would have preferred to avoid that.
Anyway, right now my Aorta is a ticking time bomb and that Aorta could burst at any moment.
This morning I had a blood pressure of 240/120 and in the hospital they got my blood pressure down a bit with Beta blockers.
I hope my Aorta is behaving until Tuesday.
Aug 11, 2018, 4:05 PM
Luis Trivino You can always contact us, and for Samui you will be able to request a postponement, or test via the internet, and otherwise place her with an acquaintance. Aug 11, 2018, 4:09 PM
Gylenthal Georges I have already instructed Samui on what to do if something happens. Aug 11, 2018, 4:09 PM
Gylenthal Georges Damn automatic correction Aug 11, 2018, 4:10 PM
Luis Trivino Yes, that sucks Aug 11, 2018, 4:10 PM
Gylenthal Georges The cardiologist in the hospital has this morning with colleagues completely examined me again, and an immediate replacement of the aorta is the only solution. Aug 11, 2018, 4:13 PM
Luis Trivino OK success Aug 11, 2018, 4:13 PM
Gylenthal Georges> Will keep you informed of further developments. Aug 11, 2018, 4:14 PM
Gylenthal Georges Ask your family doctor whether hospitalization is immediately possible if a trip to Belgium would be the only option. Aug 11, 2018, 4:17 PM
Luis Trivino Ok, will ask Monday. Aug 11, 2018, 4:58 PM
Gylenthal Georges I don't know if I should take the first flight to Belgium and have the operation done in Belgium right away. Aug 11, 2018, 5:07 PM
Gylenthal Georges The price for such a serious procedure will be quite expensive, especially if there are complications. Aug 11, 2018, 5:09 PM
Gylenthal Georges I have just looked on the internet, and prices for flights to Belgium have already started around 2,500 Euro. Aug 11, 2018, 5:12 PM
Gylenthal Georges Back and forth Aug 11, 2018, 5:12 PM
Luis Trivino Is also a possibility, first ask if you can fly.
Your room is ready at home and samui can sleep in the mobile home..
And urgent operations are carried out immediately.
Aug 11, 2018, 5:12 PM
Gylenthal Georges Look further, will be cheaper Aug 11, 2018, 5:14 PM
Gylenthal Georges I'll have a look around the internet tonight. Aug 11, 2018, 5:15 PM
Gylenthal Georges Will keep you informed Aug 11, 2018, 5:18 PM
Luis Trivino Look for a one-way flight ticket, the return flight can then be booked later in Belgium, such a ticket is usually cheaper. Aug 11, 2018, 6:20 PM

What stroked me was the sudden change of tone of my brother, Luis Trivino.

He was talking about my daughter like if she was some object which did not belong there.

“You can always contact us, and for Samui you will be able to ask for a postponement, or test via the internet, and otherwise place her with an acquaintance.”

I was always welcome in his house.

For my daughter, Samui, I would have to look for a relative where she could stay.

“At home your room is ready and Samui can sleep in the mobile home.”

For me, “my” room was ready.

My daughter, Samui, could sleep in the mobile home.

Like an animal outside in a cage.

I knew that my brother disliked everything Thai like hell and used to name them "Thaidioten (Thai idiots)".

But this was something I was not used to hear from my brother and I was not very happy with his way of talking.

But my health was more important at that moment and I was not looking to make a quarrel at this point.


The next day, I made a decision and told my daughter that we were flying to Belgium to get the surgery.

My daughter informed with her teacher, Miss BeeBee, at what date the school would start again to tell her about my decision.

The school was starting on Thursday 16th, and I was planning to fly away as soon as possible.

I would need to try to contact the direction of the school, to ask permission for a leave, while everybody was in holiday.


From Message Date
Mar Cosmo Miss when is the school started? Aug 11, 2018 5:58am
Mar Cosmo Just to be sure Aug 11, 2018 5:59am
Beebee Sattaphan On Thursday 16 Aug 11, 2018 6:16am
Mar Cosmo Okay! Thanks Aug 11, 2018 6:17am

The following days, I talked about this situation with a few very close friends of my daughter and me.

Her teacher at Assumption; Linda, the owner of the horse riding school Northstar Equestrian; Kru Chang from the Aikido Club; Dave, her Mentor Dave; etc. and they came all to the same conclusion: "Fly ASAP to Belgium and let the surgery be done in Belgium".


They would all be glad to take care of my daughter during the time I would be in Belgium.

My daughter liked the idea too, to stay with them and continue her school while I would be in Belgium.

But I was already told by the doctors in Thailand that this kind of surgery was very dangerous and I might suffer an Aorta rupture during my flight to Belgium.

So, the only option was to take my daughter with me.

In the event that the surgery would go wrong, my daughter would be with my family and they would gladly take care of her.

On my previous trips to Belgium, I discussed this already with my family and made already arrangements to have family members who would take care of her if I would die.


Chat with Inge, daughter of my brother.
Note: "Gylenthal Georges" is my NickName in Facebook.
From Message Date
Gylenthal Georges I would like to record Carmen's future should I die (Family Council).
Carmen would love to live with you when I'm gone.
But I would like to have that recorded by a court so that I can sleep with a clear conscience.
Dec 9, 2015, 9:01 AM
Inge Trivino On your last visit you mentioned that you would like us to take care of Carmen when you are no longer there and we are happy to do so.
Luc immediately agreed.
You don't have to worry about that.
Only the papers that she can come to us without problems.
Dec 9, 2015, 3:12 PM

I did make already a "Last Will" in Thailand in 2009 and I did ask my lawyer to take care of the arrangements to fly my daughter to Belgium if I would die.


Excerpt of my Last will written in 2009.


Monday, August 13, I went to the school to have a meeting with the direction and ask for permission for my daughter to be absent from the school for about 2 months.

This was granted under the condition that my daughter would keep studying at home and keep in touch with the teachers.


Later, in January 2019, I was able to download the Facebook/Messenger archive from my daughter and I was astonished to read what the doctor told my daughter.

A 16 year old child.


Group chat on Messenger between the students (translated from Thai).
My daughter is Sea Cosmo/Mar Cosmo.
This group, e-check, is gay "😂😂😂" and like being ganged up too
Participants: Theppratan Pukratok, Ara Chan, Som Nisachon, Mar Cosmo and Cro Beaux.
From Message Date
Sea Cosmo Sorry if I'm responding very slow.
I'm in a very serious situation right now.
Aug 10, 2018 2:51pm
Sea Cosmo Guys.. I think I need some comfort now. Aug 11, 2018 5:26am
Sea Cosmo I can't handle this anymore. Aug 11, 2018 5:27am
Som Nisachon Do you think, fuck off, will you read it? Aug 11, 2018 5:27am
Ara Chan I can't translate. Aug 11, 2018 5:27am
Som Nisachon Do you think the fuck off is going to read it? Aug 11, 2018 5:28am
Sea Cosmo I can't handle it anymore. Aug 11, 2018 5:28am
Ara Chan What happened Aug 11, 2018 5:28am
Som Nisachon I understand, but e-off, you pity it too. Aug 11, 2018 5:28am
Sea Cosmo My father has a pressure of 200. Aug 11, 2018 5:28am
Ara Chan Samui is okay Aug 11, 2018 5:28am
Ara Chan Shibla Bay Aug 11, 2018 5:28am
Ara Chan I don't know about pressure. Aug 11, 2018 5:29am
Sea Cosmo My father might be dead. Aug 11, 2018 5:29am
Sea Cosmo High pressure Aug 11, 2018 5:29am
Som Nisachon It can't be translated. Aug 11, 2018 5:29am
Ara Chan So what do you do?
Pressure 200
Aug 11, 2018 5:30am
Sea Cosmo I don't know Aug 11, 2018 5:30am
Sea Cosmo This hospital is not helping. Aug 11, 2018 5:31am
Som Nisachon A normal person, the pressure is only about 100 more than that, the pressure is too high. Aug 11, 2018 5:31am
Ara Chan Aunty Ku 250 Aug 11, 2018 5:31am
Ara Chan It's not alright, Aunt Ku said Maki. Aug 11, 2018 5:32am
Sea Cosmo What pressure Aug 11, 2018 5:32am
Sea Cosmo Heart or others Aug 11, 2018 5:32am
Ara Chan Where to go to the hospital Aug 11, 2018 5:32am
Ara Chan Passive high pressure Aug 11, 2018 5:33am
Ara Chan What's stressful? Aug 11, 2018 5:33am
Sea Cosmo Our school chin Aug 11, 2018 5:33am
Sea Cosmo Only first Aug 11, 2018 5:33am
Ara Chan that Aug 11, 2018 5:33am
Sea Cosmo I guess the blood doesn't flow at all.
High pressure
Aug 11, 2018 5:34am
Ara Chan That's the blood pressure. Aug 11, 2018 5:35am
Sea Cosmo I talked to the doctor alone. Aug 11, 2018 5:35am
Ara Chan Ok Aug 11, 2018 5:35am
Sea Cosmo Doctor appointment for surgery on day 14 Aug 11, 2018 5:41am
Sea Cosmo The chances of death are very high. Aug 11, 2018 5:41am
Ara Chan Calm down.
Pressure disease comes with stress, need to be calm.
Aug 11, 2018 5:41am
Ara Chan Only one, come back again. Aug 11, 2018 5:43am
Sea Cosmo Can calm down, but the blood doesn't flow,
the pressure is high.
Aug 11, 2018 5:43am
Ara Chan Risk 50 Aug 11, 2018 5:44am
Sea Cosmo More than 50 already !!!! Aug 11, 2018 5:44am